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But after a while the protests died down as players, hardcore and casual alike, get used to it and perhaps enjoy it even more. Look at every discussion whenever an online/esport game releases new update. Although I predict whatever changes are applied to 0 A.D, some people will claim that it destroy gameplay, simply because they are not used to it. So I think we have to be open to new ideas and try them all, while the game is still unfinished and the risk of extreme changes is not as big as if we try it later on Beta stage. So in a way we're all biased toward certain goals. Sometimes it means crazy weird changes with utter disregard of market needs.

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However modders as a whole seek to exploit 0 A.D engine in any way possible to reach its full potential. Even bugs are embraced if it could be taken advantages of. Extreme changes means their effort learning the game could potentially be invalidated.

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Hardcore players have spent considerable time mastering current state of the game, therefore the mod they wish to make is one of subtle fixes and mechanics. I think both hardcore players and mod makers, as you say, have very different goals set in minds. Last time I checked they don't employ the 'Mod-makers Mod'. These two are examples of 'The Hardcore Players' Mod'.

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Take for example their popular mods (Champion's Mod, and borg-'s Mod). The question 'Does it Destroy Gameplay?' can be expressed by the players' opinions.

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arrows or metal dropsite (I actually did in my 0abc mod, but I still have to figure out how to make the AI build their forges near metal mines to save walking time).Īlso, units that can build and gather everything is indeed an AoE convention which could be easily dropped there is nothing wrong with specialized units (I have fond memories of Knights and Merchants). You can remove other things from the centre, e.g. Serve as a dropsite for resources required for basic structuresīe able to train a unit that can build basic structures Serve as a dropsite for resources required for basic unitsīe able to train a unit that can gather resources required for basic structures Provide sufficient population capacity for training basic unitsīe able to train a unit that can gather resources required for basic units Now to rebuild, the centre needs at least to be able to do the following: Imagine you don't pay attention during a raid, lose your units as a consequence, and are down to just a centre (I've seen it happen to AI players more than once). I believe this is only a leftover from AoEII where 0 A.D got a lot of inspirations from.Ī necessary evil, unfortunately. I mean, civic center is an administrative building, we recruit worker here, not dropping raw meat. In general making Civic Center as a dropsite doesn't make sense logically, especially in the game where player has enough starting resources to build a separate dropsite closer to said resources.

In my mod I tried to make all aura mod visual as subtle as possible by thinning range lines and smaller icons, but overall they are still look cluttered. Every aura is also listed in building description, with its range displayed and every affected entity have floating icon if aura source is selected. As said, if you put various auras to a building, this will cause a clutter of aura range visualizations, floating icons, and building description. The caveat of this is that one aura assigned to a building can only have a set of effects that affect a set of entities. After upgrading to Town Phase forward you should not be able to use Civic Centers as dropsite anymore, as at this point you should already have all dropsite buildings to use instead.

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The result of this is quite closer to your vision, with ideal city have Civic Center surrounded by houses and civilian buildings, with economy buildings like farms and military buildings spread on territory borders.Īnother planned modification in my mod that might be of interest is that Civic Center should change name and functions on phase upgrade as in village center to town and city center later. Although I spread different auras into different buildings, with many of your mentioned effects are assigned to houses, and also some negative effects to build house beside dropsite and military buildings. My mod has similar implementation on auras.